COMIC BOOKS MAKE MY HEAD HURT*
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mf_luder_xf*Also in which I muse about Magneto's kids and propose fanfic and more Charles/Erik epic love.
So, first of all...how does ANYONE keep comic books straight? I mean, apparently the DC characters have been rebooted twice? So what canon does one follow? And then there's all these tangential side comics that sort of fit into the main series but never fully. And volume numbers don't seem to follow and...seriously, I haven't bought Hellblazer volumes because they're so confusing when trying to figure out what issues to order.
I mean, this is ridiculous:
The final issue, House of M #8, was ranked third in sales for the November 2005 period with sales of 135,462.[2] In addition to the main eight-issue limited series, House of M was preceded by a story in Excalibur #13-14, and had several tie-ins to ongoing series, including Uncanny X-Men, New X-Men: Academy X, and Wolverine, and several mini-series: Fantastic Four: House of M,The Incredible Hulk: House of M, Iron-Man: House of M, Mutopia X: House of M,and Spider-Man: House of M.
So, to get the complete story in this mini 8-arc series, you have to follow like, 11 other sub plot lines (25 total other issues according to the end of the page). All separate from the main series?
All taken from here, FYI.
Anyway, what drove me to this page (beyond it overlapping with my frustrations about Hellblazer - and if anyone knows every single issue/volumes for HB, please feel free to let me know, the Wiki page isn't that helpful when comparing it to Amazon, lol), was the fact that Magneto apparently has 3 kids in the comic 'verse.
Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, and Polaris. Quicksilver clearly takes after Erik, Scarlet Witch (aka Wanda) after Charles and Polaris, well, that's what happens when someoneHank gets a bit too vigorous with the EYCL1 gene. (Can I just point out their beefy thighs? LOL.)
So now I want the fic where using mutant powers or technology or whatever (well, not whatever; I still don't like mpreg) allows Charles and Erik to have these three kids and so they have a blood family as well as all their adopted children. And at first Havoc and Banshee (and especially Raven) are all a little put out because they were the first and they thought all the adopted kids were the family, but then the kids are just so cute and Charles and Erik SUCK at babies, even if they did fine with teenagers and so they (and the other adopted mutants) all end up being older siblings and these kids are spoiled rotten (and also, eventually, the equivalent of pushed off a satellite dish) and there'd be horrible parenting skills on the part of Charles and Erik and Erik practically begs Moira to come back and be nanny (and she's all like, I WORK FOR THE CIA, BITCH, I'M NOT YOUR HIRED HELP but comes anyway) and they're this massive, massive family living in a giant mansion (and the marriage is less divorce and more James Carville and Mary Matalin where Erik still tries to control the world/kill the humans and Charles at this point just rolls his eyes and sends out Rogue and Wolverine to stop whatever idiotic plan his husband is hatching).
I also noticed reading the page above about Magneto's daughter, Scartlet Witch, this:
Given that the House of M reality was created by the Scarlet Witch and Charles Xavier combining their powers to give the assembled New Avengers and X-Men their heart's desires
That's right.TheirErik's daughter and his husband ex-boyfriend friend joined forces to give Erik everything he ever wanted. (Ok, fine, everyone else, too.)
Also:
Wanda Maximoff, also known as the Scarlet Witch, is living on the devastated island of Genosha under the care of Professor Charles Xavier and her father Magneto.
Her powers are such that she has to live at home with her two dads.She must have been a handful as a child.
And finally, apparently Polaris is an X-(wo)Man. So, it just makes sense that these three belong to Charles and Erik. One child ends up with the beliefs of her academic father, while the two older twins take on the attitude of their more bold father. FAMILY. ♥
I also have another question. In the comic book, Magneto's real name is Max Eisenhardt. How did Erik Lehnsherr come about? That just seems out of nowhere.
Ok, see, the bad thing about getting into a fandom that is in so many forms? THERE'S SO MUCH. And it's all-consuming. I apologize in advance for any future ramblings about X-Men comics and random minutia.
So, first of all...how does ANYONE keep comic books straight? I mean, apparently the DC characters have been rebooted twice? So what canon does one follow? And then there's all these tangential side comics that sort of fit into the main series but never fully. And volume numbers don't seem to follow and...seriously, I haven't bought Hellblazer volumes because they're so confusing when trying to figure out what issues to order.
I mean, this is ridiculous:
The final issue, House of M #8, was ranked third in sales for the November 2005 period with sales of 135,462.[2] In addition to the main eight-issue limited series, House of M was preceded by a story in Excalibur #13-14, and had several tie-ins to ongoing series, including Uncanny X-Men, New X-Men: Academy X, and Wolverine, and several mini-series: Fantastic Four: House of M,The Incredible Hulk: House of M, Iron-Man: House of M, Mutopia X: House of M,and Spider-Man: House of M.
So, to get the complete story in this mini 8-arc series, you have to follow like, 11 other sub plot lines (25 total other issues according to the end of the page). All separate from the main series?
All taken from here, FYI.
Anyway, what drove me to this page (beyond it overlapping with my frustrations about Hellblazer - and if anyone knows every single issue/volumes for HB, please feel free to let me know, the Wiki page isn't that helpful when comparing it to Amazon, lol), was the fact that Magneto apparently has 3 kids in the comic 'verse.
Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, and Polaris. Quicksilver clearly takes after Erik, Scarlet Witch (aka Wanda) after Charles and Polaris, well, that's what happens when someone
So now I want the fic where using mutant powers or technology or whatever (well, not whatever; I still don't like mpreg) allows Charles and Erik to have these three kids and so they have a blood family as well as all their adopted children. And at first Havoc and Banshee (and especially Raven) are all a little put out because they were the first and they thought all the adopted kids were the family, but then the kids are just so cute and Charles and Erik SUCK at babies, even if they did fine with teenagers and so they (and the other adopted mutants) all end up being older siblings and these kids are spoiled rotten (and also, eventually, the equivalent of pushed off a satellite dish) and there'd be horrible parenting skills on the part of Charles and Erik and Erik practically begs Moira to come back and be nanny (and she's all like, I WORK FOR THE CIA, BITCH, I'M NOT YOUR HIRED HELP but comes anyway) and they're this massive, massive family living in a giant mansion (and the marriage is less divorce and more James Carville and Mary Matalin where Erik still tries to control the world/kill the humans and Charles at this point just rolls his eyes and sends out Rogue and Wolverine to stop whatever idiotic plan his husband is hatching).
I also noticed reading the page above about Magneto's daughter, Scartlet Witch, this:
Given that the House of M reality was created by the Scarlet Witch and Charles Xavier combining their powers to give the assembled New Avengers and X-Men their heart's desires
That's right.
Also:
Wanda Maximoff, also known as the Scarlet Witch, is living on the devastated island of Genosha under the care of Professor Charles Xavier and her father Magneto.
Her powers are such that she has to live at home with her two dads.
And finally, apparently Polaris is an X-(wo)Man. So, it just makes sense that these three belong to Charles and Erik. One child ends up with the beliefs of her academic father, while the two older twins take on the attitude of their more bold father. FAMILY. ♥
I also have another question. In the comic book, Magneto's real name is Max Eisenhardt. How did Erik Lehnsherr come about? That just seems out of nowhere.
Ok, see, the bad thing about getting into a fandom that is in so many forms? THERE'S SO MUCH. And it's all-consuming. I apologize in advance for any future ramblings about X-Men comics and random minutia.
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Date: 2011-06-16 03:14 am (UTC)Pietro and Wanda are super-fun; they started out in the Brotherhood without even knowing Magneto was their father, and then they ended up as heroes on the Avengers for a while, and blah blah blah tons of complicated comics events, lol. They have such a complicated, fraught relationship with their father that it's really fun to play around with. :)a There should be more First Class fics incorporating Erik's kids, I only know of one right now.
As for 'Erik Lensherr', I think that's the 'real name' the writers gave him early on; he started out just this two-dimensional villain 'Magneto', and then some writer had Charles call him 'Magnus', and then he was called Erik Lensherr and so he became Erik Magnus Lensherr, and then they retconned that into being an alias and going with Max Eisenhardt. I think. >_>a And seeing as how I didn't even know the name 'Max Eisenhardt' until I googled Magneto after seeing First Class, I doubt that it's really caught on in terms of how the fans mentally label the man.
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Date: 2011-06-17 03:47 pm (UTC)They have such a complicated, fraught relationship with their father that it's really fun to play around with.
Damn, I more and more want to write it now...:P
Haha, yeah, I watched a clip of the X-Men animated show and Charles calls him Magnus and all the comments in the post are like "MAGNUS?!?!" I really think Magneto is as bad as Magnus (comic books so love their literal superhero names - I prefer names like "The Comedian" and "Dr Manhattan," also Constantine. Less inyourface! obvious.). I much prefer Erik Lehnsherr to Max, so I'm going to go with the original.lol
Thanks for all the info! It's rather obvious I'm just not a comic book geek. Until fairly recently. (It all started with Watchmen. If only JDM hadn't been in the movie...)